Spock has it right
Because I’ve gotten so much backlash about quoting the bible out of context, let me help you all gain some knowledge about this book that we’re all so fond of quoting. Seriously, if you are Christian or Catholic please learn a little about the history of a religion you’re so willing to go crazy over.
Well this is awkward.
“The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible.” — Mark Twain
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thank you whoever put this up. you dont even need to argue the bible people just need to read it and realize we are living in 2013 things have changed.
Well… this is awkward.
You guys do realize that they are paraphrasing and bending the words, right? This is nowhere near a direct translation. That, and all of these scriptures are from the Old Testament. Let me explain something to ya:
In the Old Testament, God required an animal sacrifice to pay for sin (because death is the penalty of sin), and His “chosen people” would slack off and stuff (oh and sin A LOT) so it had to be paid for somehow. That’s why He was so wrathful and (what seemed to be) unjust. The Israelites fell into sin without it being paid for, God got angry, and consequences happened.
When Jesus came, died, and rose again, He was the ultimate sacrifice. No more sacrifices required. Zero-zip-zilch. Ergo; no angry God. (Hm. I like the word ergo. I’m gonna have to use that one a bit more). When Jesus died, that sacrifice covered all sin. Past, present, and future. And that’s amazing to me because no matter how or when or why I mess up, God forgives me. He already has.
Now, I know not everyone believes that^ part. Just want everyone to be well informed. We don’t live by all the weird out of context gobbledeegook that is presented when attacking Christianity. It’s far from the actual content of the scripture. Attacking anyone’s religion.. on this large of a scale hurts. Everyone on tumblr is all like “oh i’m cool with you bein a christian as long as you don’t shove it down my throat and tell me im wrong”.. how is it justified for other religions or atheists? I get that a lot of Christians act that way.. and it really upsets me. And I’m so, so sorry. It agitates me just as much as it does a lot of people. (ANALOGY TIME: Don’t let the fandom ruin the show/anime/game. A lot of AWESOME shows/animes/games have sucky fandoms. (lol I just realized I’m part of the Jesus fandom))
(OOOOPS side note: Sure, the times have changed. Slavery was common practice in those days so God laid down the law about it. And if you were rich in those days, you had many wives who were more of maids in the household. God was addressing the common boundaries. It was all in the context of the age. That’s a major problem when it comes to attacking Christianity; simply look at the context and you can fit the pieces together. If I randomly pull out some sort of “and God smote the man” with no reason why He did it, no information of who the man was, and no time period, it’ll obviously sound harsh and evil.)
Woo. That was long.
#jesus fandom 5ever
THIS ^ YES Ephraim I love you (I hope I didn’t spell your name wrong) but yes I completely agree with everything you said.
Seriously? don’t wet your pants, even though you seem to think like a small child. I read one thing from that paragraph and here it is “Slavery was common practice in those days so God laid down the law about it.”
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? seriously. are you, fucking, kidding me????? Do common practices really dictate the laws of GOD!?! the supposed all-knowing, omnipotent, omnipresent creator??? HIS DIVINE LAW is dictated by the common practices of man?!!? No, I call such bullshit even the cows recognize it as shit of their own. To think, to even consider that a moral compass, a being that is to be understood as god, that HE got the questions of “IS SLAVERY BAD?” WRONG, is a fucking insult to humanity and an insult to any race of people that has been enslaved. You actually mean to tell me, that because slavery was common back then, that that is why ***GOD*** fucking told men how to enslave people?! You have honestly reached a level of stupidity where I feel you are a danger to yourself and to society. You know what else was a common practice back then? Sacrifice. You know what else your authors of the bible were doing back then? STONING WOMEN AND BUTTFUCKING THEIR LIVESTOCK. You ignorant human being, honestly, how fucking dare you say that slavery is justified in any sense whatsoever. Take a fucking history lesson and have some motherfucking compassion for those, your brothers and sisters, your fellow human beings, who were enslaved. And you have the balls, THE BALLS, to say it was a common practice back then?! Absolutely fucking disgusting.
One thing to take away from this “Oh where’s the context?” counterargument of you religious folk, is that context does not matter when you get the whole fucking thing wrong. A REAL GOD OR IDEA OF A GOD WOULD NOT LAY DOWN THE FOUNDATION OF HUMAN MORALITY TO BE UNDERSTOOD ONLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT TIME. A MORAL FOUNDATION LAYED DOWN BY GOD CAN BE APPLIED TO ANY TIME AND PLACE AND CONTEXT IN THE EXISTENCE OF HUMANITY. Because the bible does not do this, the bible is bullshit.
I am EX SEE and I approve the calling out of ignorance, you dumb mother fuckers
Nothing more amusing than an someone calling those with religious beliefs “mother f***kers” and have a nearly 400 words rant about how they’re ignorant. As the previous poster pointed out, these scriptures are from the Old Testament where basically God was giving guidelines to man because of how morally corrupt they were. He was trying to at least have people follow some kind of code because there was sin EVERYWHERE. And you have to take it in context for the statements to be understood because otherwise:
“How much for that ass?”
Sounds like an proposition? I’m merely talking about buying a donkey, but you wouldn’t know that by just reading that phrase. You have to have context or the message could be interpreted as completely wrong. And of course God knew that slavery was bad, His peeps (aka the Isrealites) were enslaved too. So, yeah…
It’s late and I felt like blowing off some steam, I get a bunch of ignorant responses on this repost and don’t feel like reading all of them, please, forgive me. But just for fun, let’s keep going.
Again, “these scriptures are from the Old Testament where basically God was giving guidelines to man because of how morally corrupt they were” okay, so instead of just coming out and saying, “Hey guys, slavery is bad, stop it” we’re all supposed to accept that God in his infinite wisdom said, “hey guys, slavery is alright just for little while, after that it’s a no no”. I don’t have to take it into context anymore than you have to take understanding slavery in america into context. You can sit there and make the argument that sin was everywhere in the 1700s and that slavery in america was just because hey, sin was everywhere. Men can be and are deplorable. God is not and I am extremely hesitant to attribute anything to God because I think man’s attempt to attribute things to god is ridiculous. But I do know if you’re telling me that God is supposed to be this being of infinite love, compassion, wisdom, and all that jazz, that he wouldn’t be able to find a better way to get Men to stop enslaving each other?
The biggest problem here is that you religious people speak about God as if you know better than i do about what HE wants. Referring to God as “He” is so incredibly insulting to the idea of God in the first place that you’re all just hypocrites. If god is as great as all these books claim ‘it’ to be, then aren’t you all humanizing ‘it’ by referring to it as he all the time? Attributing human characteristics to a being as great and mysterious as it? Your gods literally sound more like Zeus than any ultimate divine creator, with his jealousy and anger and all that shit.
All in all, slavery = bad, no matter what the context, what the time, who what when where and why, justifying human enslavement had no place in our supposed moral history, especially in a history that claims to be the moral compass for all mankind. All religions claim to be these religions of peace, and yet have histories of justifying slavery, abuse of women, and other such atrocities. It’s no wonder the old testament is filled with so many stories of war, that islam today treats women like property rather than people, and that there are more killings in the name of the Christian God than any other god in the history of mankind.
Slavery was, is, and always will be wrong. And if you had a “God” that justified it for whatever reason, then that God is not worth any such praise.
Well this is awkward.
“The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible.” — Mark Twain
π
thank you whoever put this up. you dont even need to argue the bible people just need to read it and realize we are living in 2013 things have changed.
Well… this is awkward.
You guys do realize that they are paraphrasing and bending the words, right? This is nowhere near a direct translation. That, and all of these scriptures are from the Old Testament. Let me explain something to ya:
In the Old Testament, God required an animal sacrifice to pay for sin (because death is the penalty of sin), and His “chosen people” would slack off and stuff (oh and sin A LOT) so it had to be paid for somehow. That’s why He was so wrathful and (what seemed to be) unjust. The Israelites fell into sin without it being paid for, God got angry, and consequences happened.
When Jesus came, died, and rose again, He was the ultimate sacrifice. No more sacrifices required. Zero-zip-zilch. Ergo; no angry God. (Hm. I like the word ergo. I’m gonna have to use that one a bit more). When Jesus died, that sacrifice covered all sin. Past, present, and future. And that’s amazing to me because no matter how or when or why I mess up, God forgives me. He already has.
Now, I know not everyone believes that^ part. Just want everyone to be well informed. We don’t live by all the weird out of context gobbledeegook that is presented when attacking Christianity. It’s far from the actual content of the scripture. Attacking anyone’s religion.. on this large of a scale hurts. Everyone on tumblr is all like “oh i’m cool with you bein a christian as long as you don’t shove it down my throat and tell me im wrong”.. how is it justified for other religions or atheists? I get that a lot of Christians act that way.. and it really upsets me. And I’m so, so sorry. It agitates me just as much as it does a lot of people. (ANALOGY TIME: Don’t let the fandom ruin the show/anime/game. A lot of AWESOME shows/animes/games have sucky fandoms. (lol I just realized I’m part of the Jesus fandom))
(OOOOPS side note: Sure, the times have changed. Slavery was common practice in those days so God laid down the law about it. And if you were rich in those days, you had many wives who were more of maids in the household. God was addressing the common boundaries. It was all in the context of the age. That’s a major problem when it comes to attacking Christianity; simply look at the context and you can fit the pieces together. If I randomly pull out some sort of “and God smote the man” with no reason why He did it, no information of who the man was, and no time period, it’ll obviously sound harsh and evil.)
Woo. That was long.
#jesus fandom 5ever
THIS ^ YES Ephraim I love you (I hope I didn’t spell your name wrong) but yes I completely agree with everything you said.
Seriously? don’t wet your pants, even though you seem to think like a small child. I read one thing from that paragraph and here it is “Slavery was common practice in those days so God laid down the law about it.”
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? seriously. are you, fucking, kidding me????? Do common practices really dictate the laws of GOD!?! the supposed all-knowing, omnipotent, omnipresent creator??? HIS DIVINE LAW is dictated by the common practices of man?!!? No, I call such bullshit even the cows recognize it as shit of their own. To think, to even consider that a moral compass, a being that is to be understood as god, that HE got the questions of “IS SLAVERY BAD?” WRONG, is a fucking insult to humanity and an insult to any race of people that has been enslaved. You actually mean to tell me, that because slavery was common back then, that that is why ***GOD*** fucking told men how to enslave people?! You have honestly reached a level of stupidity where I feel you are a danger to yourself and to society. You know what else was a common practice back then? Sacrifice. You know what else your authors of the bible were doing back then? STONING WOMEN AND BUTTFUCKING THEIR LIVESTOCK. You ignorant human being, honestly, how fucking dare you say that slavery is justified in any sense whatsoever. Take a fucking history lesson and have some motherfucking compassion for those, your brothers and sisters, your fellow human beings, who were enslaved. And you have the balls, THE BALLS, to say it was a common practice back then?! Absolutely fucking disgusting.
One thing to take away from this “Oh where’s the context?” counterargument of you religious folk, is that context does not matter when you get the whole fucking thing wrong. A REAL GOD OR IDEA OF A GOD WOULD NOT LAY DOWN THE FOUNDATION OF HUMAN MORALITY TO BE UNDERSTOOD ONLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT TIME. A MORAL FOUNDATION LAYED DOWN BY GOD CAN BE APPLIED TO ANY TIME AND PLACE AND CONTEXT IN THE EXISTENCE OF HUMANITY. Because the bible does not do this, the bible is bullshit.
I am EX SEE and I approve the calling out of ignorance, you dumb mother fuckers
(Source: mc-xc)
Nothing like some fucking hypocrisy to start the day. Christians and catholics who attend lavish churches and support buildings like this are unbelievable, like their God and religion as a whole.
And don’t try to reblog this saying “oh its to give people who see it hope and faith in order to spread the goodwill of christianity”…seriously, take that defense and shove up the 9 year old boys ass along with your priest’s dick for an inevitable cover up by the vatican.